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		<title>By: Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/tagged-com/#comment-371932</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in the Terms Of Service (TOS) that they can send you any kind of commercial offers they want to - But all applicable laws and threats of lawsuits against you can be used if YOU try to post YOUR business information on their site to sell your OWN services.  Nice.  Really nice.  Bastards deserve to be beaten to DEATH with a large metal spoon.

There MAY be a way out though.  They list this information on the TOS page too:

Opt-Out
Users can manage their mailing preferences to specify which type of email to opt out of on their Update Account Info page when they are logged in, simply by un-checking the boxes indicating which type of email they would not like to receive. Canceling one's account will also prevent a user from receiving future communications from Tagged, and Tagged will not share the user's information with third parties for marketing purposes.

It's almost at the bottom of the page at this link: http://www.tagged.com/terms_of_service.html (Sorry for putting their web link on your site - I know it damages even my sense of dignity to paste it here, even though it's possibly a way to rid yourself of this vermin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in the Terms Of Service (TOS) that they can send you any kind of commercial offers they want to - But all applicable laws and threats of lawsuits against you can be used if YOU try to post YOUR business information on their site to sell your OWN services.  Nice.  Really nice.  Bastards deserve to be beaten to DEATH with a large metal spoon.</p>
<p>There MAY be a way out though.  They list this information on the TOS page too:</p>
<p>Opt-Out<br />
Users can manage their mailing preferences to specify which type of email to opt out of on their Update Account Info page when they are logged in, simply by un-checking the boxes indicating which type of email they would not like to receive. Canceling one&#8217;s account will also prevent a user from receiving future communications from Tagged, and Tagged will not share the user&#8217;s information with third parties for marketing purposes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost at the bottom of the page at this link: <a href="http://www.tagged.com/terms_of_service.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tagged.com/terms_of_service.html</a> (Sorry for putting their web link on your site - I know it damages even my sense of dignity to paste it here, even though it&#8217;s possibly a way to rid yourself of this vermin).</p>
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		<title>By: Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/tagged-com/#comment-371921</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Oh yeah, and one more thing that made me hesitate - I bought the electronic database from the local chamber of commerce that contains the entire Chamber of Commerce Memberships individual email addresses.  That's over 2,000 people right there.  Imagine how much I would have been LOVED in my county had they started Phishing the entire business community because of me!  Not only that, but since they would have had my email address and password, what would stop them from instantly setting up an account and downloading EVERY SINGLE ONE of my emails containing only the Gods know what - all sorts of good stuff.... so even if I went in and changed my password - it would be too late.  Think about that.  How does anyone know that they don't do that using an automated set up NOT just take contact information?  I'm in IT, and trust me, a programmer could have that account set up instantly and start downloading anything and everything within seconds of you're hitting the submit button, while you're still busy going through the next four or five pages of sign up, they could be scouring and saving all your emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Oh yeah, and one more thing that made me hesitate - I bought the electronic database from the local chamber of commerce that contains the entire Chamber of Commerce Memberships individual email addresses.  That&#8217;s over 2,000 people right there.  Imagine how much I would have been LOVED in my county had they started Phishing the entire business community because of me!  Not only that, but since they would have had my email address and password, what would stop them from instantly setting up an account and downloading EVERY SINGLE ONE of my emails containing only the Gods know what - all sorts of good stuff&#8230;. so even if I went in and changed my password - it would be too late.  Think about that.  How does anyone know that they don&#8217;t do that using an automated set up NOT just take contact information?  I&#8217;m in IT, and trust me, a programmer could have that account set up instantly and start downloading anything and everything within seconds of you&#8217;re hitting the submit button, while you&#8217;re still busy going through the next four or five pages of sign up, they could be scouring and saving all your emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/tagged-com/#comment-371898</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooksville Computer Network Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost got zapped by these freaks.  A lawyer friend of mind "Tagged" me and he being my best and most valued friend, I thought I'd accept until I entered in my MSN email account and put in my password... AND DID NOT HIT NEXT!!  Instead I used Copernic (the free multi search engine tool) and looked it up and WHOA NELLIE!  Bad news popped up all OVER the place.  Good thing too.  Even WikiPedia has them defined as a Phishing site.  So I immediately went back to the page and erased my password and MSN account name and got out of there ASAP.  Of course to get to the email / password page I already had to agree to their terms - hope that doesn't screw me up too.  At least I had the good sense not to agree to have the idiots put me on their "Send me offers and surveys" crap, but I did tell them my age, sex, full name, zip code and created a password (not worried, it's different from all my other ones).  Those Bozo bastards should rot in a 120 degree sewer somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost got zapped by these freaks.  A lawyer friend of mind &#8220;Tagged&#8221; me and he being my best and most valued friend, I thought I&#8217;d accept until I entered in my MSN email account and put in my password&#8230; AND DID NOT HIT NEXT!!  Instead I used Copernic (the free multi search engine tool) and looked it up and WHOA NELLIE!  Bad news popped up all OVER the place.  Good thing too.  Even WikiPedia has them defined as a Phishing site.  So I immediately went back to the page and erased my password and MSN account name and got out of there ASAP.  Of course to get to the email / password page I already had to agree to their terms - hope that doesn&#8217;t screw me up too.  At least I had the good sense not to agree to have the idiots put me on their &#8220;Send me offers and surveys&#8221; crap, but I did tell them my age, sex, full name, zip code and created a password (not worried, it&#8217;s different from all my other ones).  Those Bozo bastards should rot in a 120 degree sewer somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: AjiNIMC</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/tagged-com/#comment-201437</link>
		<dc:creator>AjiNIMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand that Larry. For last few months I am not getting any mails from them, may be my spam filter is acting smart these days :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand that Larry. For last few months I am not getting any mails from them, may be my spam filter is acting smart these days :).</p>
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		<title>By: farhana</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/tagged-com/#comment-200786</link>
		<dc:creator>farhana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the worst sites on the net. Tricking people out of their contact list is illegal.This jerk at abuse
makes it voluntary on your part if you click "yes" . You gave them the right to take you contacts list without your knowledge...Yeh, that sound like stealing all right!

Should a stranger be asking you for your email login? Most of you know you should not do that, but slick
trickery can fool some.

Read on:

First I want to say, I did not click on yes or no....

I complained to abuse@above.net on behalf of someone else "victim " # ?(who knows)

and hope you all will to. The problem is the above.net person seemed to be defensive of this site, which is unusual. In every case I am aware of, they are trying to "protect" the consumer, but in this case, I was threatened with legal action when I called it "stealing" when it is in fact just that, and I am gathering information from this site as well as others, and may contact people to get declarations if this group of scammers try to threaten me again..Here is the text of the message I received from so called "abuse" see if this sounds like the position someone takes, who is trying to be on the side of you and others who have been scammed by this site.

their position:

Dear Farhana,

"Steal" is a very strong term and carrying possible severe penalties. In every instance that I've investigated to date, the email address and specifically the password for the email account was provided freely by the complainant.

Please provide any evidence that you may have, not just the accusation, that your email password was obtained by means other than by you providing it to them.

Sincerely,

Larry McDonald
Policy Enforcement
AboveNet Communications, Inc.
http://www.above.net/corporate/acceptableuse.html
http://www.above.net/corporate/antispam.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the worst sites on the net. Tricking people out of their contact list is illegal.This jerk at abuse<br />
makes it voluntary on your part if you click &#8220;yes&#8221; . You gave them the right to take you contacts list without your knowledge&#8230;Yeh, that sound like stealing all right!</p>
<p>Should a stranger be asking you for your email login? Most of you know you should not do that, but slick<br />
trickery can fool some.</p>
<p>Read on:</p>
<p>First I want to say, I did not click on yes or no&#8230;.</p>
<p>I complained to <a href="mailto:abuse@above.net">abuse@above.net</a> on behalf of someone else &#8220;victim &#8221; # ?(who knows)</p>
<p>and hope you all will to. The problem is the above.net person seemed to be defensive of this site, which is unusual. In every case I am aware of, they are trying to &#8220;protect&#8221; the consumer, but in this case, I was threatened with legal action when I called it &#8220;stealing&#8221; when it is in fact just that, and I am gathering information from this site as well as others, and may contact people to get declarations if this group of scammers try to threaten me again..Here is the text of the message I received from so called &#8220;abuse&#8221; see if this sounds like the position someone takes, who is trying to be on the side of you and others who have been scammed by this site.</p>
<p>their position:</p>
<p>Dear Farhana,</p>
<p>&#8220;Steal&#8221; is a very strong term and carrying possible severe penalties. In every instance that I&#8217;ve investigated to date, the email address and specifically the password for the email account was provided freely by the complainant.</p>
<p>Please provide any evidence that you may have, not just the accusation, that your email password was obtained by means other than by you providing it to them.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Larry McDonald<br />
Policy Enforcement<br />
AboveNet Communications, Inc.<br />
<a href="http://www.above.net/corporate/acceptableuse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.above.net/corporate/acceptableuse.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.above.net/corporate/antispam.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.above.net/corporate/antispam.html</a></p>
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