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		<title>By: Is it time to doubt Wikipedia?</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-75931</link>
		<dc:creator>Is it time to doubt Wikipedia?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susmita,
I have just received another news - this time it is about wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susmita,<br />
I have just received another news - this time it is about wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: MrDoubts</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-70337</link>
		<dc:creator>MrDoubts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Susmita,

Good points butâ€¦..

Doing extensive keyword research or measuring KEI is most common and primary techniques to write targeted content â€“ no comment on effectiveness of the content. 

However, think yourself to be a journalist - you work on a topic that is unknown to the world. Nobody could guess the earthquake in Peru 2 days back, but it is now one of the highly searched terms. Do you think Wordtracker, Overture, or Google Adwords are powerful enough to predict these terms!

Writing content for forum or news portals is different from writing content for regular websites. In forums and news portals, you must concentrate on â€œimmediate needsâ€ of the visitors. It is not enough to know what terms people â€œusedâ€ to come to your forum or news portal â€“ you must â€œguess the trendâ€ and write accordingly. All these apply only if a content writer is trying to â€œadd some valueâ€ or trying to â€œhelp the visitorsâ€. 

â€œLearn about the topic in different websitesâ€ â€“ it is fine to learn about the subject from different websites â€“ but what next. Are you adding something to what already exists?

â€œyahoo gives more importance to content compared to linksâ€ â€“ does yahoo announce authenticity of the information? We all know that .org, .gov or .edu sites provide trustworthy information â€“ but is there any guarantee to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Susmita,</p>
<p>Good points butâ€¦..</p>
<p>Doing extensive keyword research or measuring KEI is most common and primary techniques to write targeted content â€“ no comment on effectiveness of the content. </p>
<p>However, think yourself to be a journalist - you work on a topic that is unknown to the world. Nobody could guess the earthquake in Peru 2 days back, but it is now one of the highly searched terms. Do you think Wordtracker, Overture, or Google Adwords are powerful enough to predict these terms!</p>
<p>Writing content for forum or news portals is different from writing content for regular websites. In forums and news portals, you must concentrate on â€œimmediate needsâ€ of the visitors. It is not enough to know what terms people â€œusedâ€ to come to your forum or news portal â€“ you must â€œguess the trendâ€ and write accordingly. All these apply only if a content writer is trying to â€œadd some valueâ€ or trying to â€œhelp the visitorsâ€. </p>
<p>â€œLearn about the topic in different websitesâ€ â€“ it is fine to learn about the subject from different websites â€“ but what next. Are you adding something to what already exists?</p>
<p>â€œyahoo gives more importance to content compared to linksâ€ â€“ does yahoo announce authenticity of the information? We all know that .org, .gov or .edu sites provide trustworthy information â€“ but is there any guarantee to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Susmita</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-66692</link>
		<dc:creator>Susmita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don't think so. In order to make a common man get what he is looking for, we need to know what he is actually searching for and then highlight on those aspects. It is important to know the user needs. There are 2 ways of doing it:

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt; Look through the keyword tracker (just to know what people want, not to use the same keyword again and again, otherwise it will be a typical SEO article)
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt; Learn about the topic in different websites (This is what i do mostly and that too in yahoo as yahoo gives more importance to content compared to links).
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

And, if I am writing content, I am focusing on one particular page at that moment and how to make it the best page on that topic. My goal at that moment is to write content such that I can make the visitor read/scan (as they mostly scan) the entire article and help him out with some great info. It doesn't matter (at least to me)  how many pages my website has.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think so. In order to make a common man get what he is looking for, we need to know what he is actually searching for and then highlight on those aspects. It is important to know the user needs. There are 2 ways of doing it:</p>
<ol>
<li> Look through the keyword tracker (just to know what people want, not to use the same keyword again and again, otherwise it will be a typical SEO article)
</li>
<li> Learn about the topic in different websites (This is what i do mostly and that too in yahoo as yahoo gives more importance to content compared to links).
</li>
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<p>And, if I am writing content, I am focusing on one particular page at that moment and how to make it the best page on that topic. My goal at that moment is to write content such that I can make the visitor read/scan (as they mostly scan) the entire article and help him out with some great info. It doesn&#8217;t matter (at least to me)  how many pages my website has.. <img src='http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: MrDoubts</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-65632</link>
		<dc:creator>MrDoubts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aji - I got your point. 
@ Susmita - This may apply when you have a website with limited pages. A few months back I wrote a post on almost a related issue (taking the liberty to put online newspaper and forum under same genre). You can take a look: "Guess your keywords to stay in the business â€“ calculations wont pay" - &lt;a href="http://moredoubts.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/guess-your-keywords-to-stay-in-the-business-%e2%80%93-calculations-wont-pay/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://moredoubts.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aji - I got your point.<br />
@ Susmita - This may apply when you have a website with limited pages. A few months back I wrote a post on almost a related issue (taking the liberty to put online newspaper and forum under same genre). You can take a look: &#8220;Guess your keywords to stay in the business â€“ calculations wont pay&#8221; - <a href="http://moredoubts.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/guess-your-keywords-to-stay-in-the-business-%e2%80%93-calculations-wont-pay/" rel="nofollow">http://moredoubts.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Susmita</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-65428</link>
		<dc:creator>Susmita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since no content is enough to satisfy what every visitor wants, so we can use keyword tracker to check out what people are looking for and then focus on those aspects of a topic in the article. Even then we may need to divide the article as it might get too long. And, we can try to focus on what is searched for more in the first 15 secs of the page as it's important to hold the attention of the visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since no content is enough to satisfy what every visitor wants, so we can use keyword tracker to check out what people are looking for and then focus on those aspects of a topic in the article. Even then we may need to divide the article as it might get too long. And, we can try to focus on what is searched for more in the first 15 secs of the page as it&#8217;s important to hold the attention of the visitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Manojit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manojit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Aji :) Now, i got your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aji <img src='http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Now, i got your point.</p>
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		<title>By: AjiNIMC</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-59906</link>
		<dc:creator>AjiNIMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Why sitemap is not useful?&lt;/b&gt;
Success of Google over &lt;a href="http://dmoz.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;DMOZ&lt;/a&gt; says it all. We want to get it at once and not want to scan, navigate or sail to the content. Sitemap is still more of a SE stuff. Categorization of articles is still a good idea, &lt;a href="http://about.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;about.com&lt;/a&gt; does it very well. Categorization is very useful in allowing a n-tree thinking, where when thinking about the first node of the tree you can forget about the other n-1 node, helping you to stay focused on one topic at one time.

&lt;b&gt;Categorizing/Sitemap is useful but still a search is better recruit.&lt;/b&gt;

Manojit, good question. According to me a visitor goes through following stages

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;b&gt;Visitor (first 15 secs)&lt;/b&gt; -&gt; Looking for trust and information (You have no say on these people. Itâ€™s their take. They will not click on â€œclick hereâ€ links). Itâ€™s very important that within the 15 secs you can establish your authority. 
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Visitor (&gt;15 secs)&lt;/b&gt; -&gt; Here the visitor is fairly impressed and started trusted you. Now you can hold his hands and navigate through multiple pages. You are permitted for more action and they will click on links saying â€œclick hereâ€.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;NOTE: If your link takes time in loading then it is like leaving their hand, so make sure your links are loading really quick as &lt;a href="http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/downloading-speed/" rel="nofollow"&gt;speed means sales&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;

Now getting back to your question &lt;b&gt;â€œIt is not always possible to cover all the required information in a single pageâ€&lt;/b&gt;, each page has its own purpose and does not need all the content. Spend time in analyzing the content-purpose conflicts, remove as much conflicts as possible. As I explained in my classes, â€œDo I understand XYZ?â€ is more inline with the purpose of the page than â€œWhat is XYZ?â€. &lt;b&gt;Bigger things doesnâ€™t give a bigger impact but a combination of smaller things will do&lt;/b&gt;. 

&lt;b&gt;Here is a golden rule for TLs&lt;/b&gt;
Focus on the first 15 secs -&gt; make your content scan-able to let the visitor know that you have it and in building the trust(template, logo, punchline plays a role here).&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Why sitemap is not useful?</b><br />
Success of Google over <a href="http://dmoz.org" rel="nofollow">DMOZ</a> says it all. We want to get it at once and not want to scan, navigate or sail to the content. Sitemap is still more of a SE stuff. Categorization of articles is still a good idea, <a href="http://about.com" rel="nofollow">about.com</a> does it very well. Categorization is very useful in allowing a n-tree thinking, where when thinking about the first node of the tree you can forget about the other n-1 node, helping you to stay focused on one topic at one time.</p>
<p><b>Categorizing/Sitemap is useful but still a search is better recruit.</b></p>
<p>Manojit, good question. According to me a visitor goes through following stages</p>
<ul>
<li> <b>Visitor (first 15 secs)</b> -> Looking for trust and information (You have no say on these people. Itâ€™s their take. They will not click on â€œclick hereâ€ links). Itâ€™s very important that within the 15 secs you can establish your authority.
</li>
<li><b>Visitor (>15 secs)</b> -> Here the visitor is fairly impressed and started trusted you. Now you can hold his hands and navigate through multiple pages. You are permitted for more action and they will click on links saying â€œclick hereâ€.
</li>
<li>NOTE: If your link takes time in loading then it is like leaving their hand, so make sure your links are loading really quick as <a href="http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/downloading-speed/" rel="nofollow">speed means sales</a>.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<p>Now getting back to your question <b>â€œIt is not always possible to cover all the required information in a single pageâ€</b>, each page has its own purpose and does not need all the content. Spend time in analyzing the content-purpose conflicts, remove as much conflicts as possible. As I explained in my classes, â€œDo I understand XYZ?â€ is more inline with the purpose of the page than â€œWhat is XYZ?â€. <b>Bigger things doesnâ€™t give a bigger impact but a combination of smaller things will do</b>. </p>
<p><b>Here is a golden rule for TLs</b><br />
Focus on the first 15 secs -> make your content scan-able to let the visitor know that you have it and in building the trust(template, logo, punchline plays a role here).</ul>
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		<title>By: MrDoubts</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-59676</link>
		<dc:creator>MrDoubts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aji, 

Another great post.
However, we have forgotten another important page â€“ the sitemap. What if the sitemap becomes the home page for a big forum? 

Am I moving wild? Perhaps not! 8)

@ Manojit
What is the use of content, if the visitor does not use it! It is more about content distribution and thatâ€™s where the issue of proper funneling comes in. 

There might be a lot of situations like:
1: Visitor knows where it is and spends few clicks to reaches there
2: Visitor do not know where it is and thus leaves
3: visitor knows where it is but do not feel like reaching there
4: etc and etc
â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ and thus you need to act accordingly. Success depends on webmasterâ€™s efficiency of tracking userâ€™s behavior. And Google analytics is not complete solution. 

In next generation web (the age has begun), the emphasis will not simply be on content management â€“ it may go a step further â€“ content catering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aji, </p>
<p>Another great post.<br />
However, we have forgotten another important page â€“ the sitemap. What if the sitemap becomes the home page for a big forum? </p>
<p>Am I moving wild? Perhaps not! <img src='http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ Manojit<br />
What is the use of content, if the visitor does not use it! It is more about content distribution and thatâ€™s where the issue of proper funneling comes in. </p>
<p>There might be a lot of situations like:<br />
1: Visitor knows where it is and spends few clicks to reaches there<br />
2: Visitor do not know where it is and thus leaves<br />
3: visitor knows where it is but do not feel like reaching there<br />
4: etc and etc<br />
â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ and thus you need to act accordingly. Success depends on webmasterâ€™s efficiency of tracking userâ€™s behavior. And Google analytics is not complete solution. </p>
<p>In next generation web (the age has begun), the emphasis will not simply be on content management â€“ it may go a step further â€“ content catering.</p>
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		<title>By: Manojit</title>
		<link>http://www.idealwebtools.com/blog/howmuch-content/#comment-59500</link>
		<dc:creator>Manojit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 12:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aji,

I have a doubt. 

It is not always possible to cover all the required information in a single page. And some times we intentionally create more than 1 page to provide all the information, otherwise the page gets too long. In that case, it might happen that page get more than 0 click and time spent is also more than 30 Seconds. Then, will it true say that the page does not have enough content.

Manojit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aji,</p>
<p>I have a doubt. </p>
<p>It is not always possible to cover all the required information in a single page. And some times we intentionally create more than 1 page to provide all the information, otherwise the page gets too long. In that case, it might happen that page get more than 0 click and time spent is also more than 30 Seconds. Then, will it true say that the page does not have enough content.</p>
<p>Manojit</p>
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